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Read Chapter two before responding.

The copious amount of ash produced by coal-burning furnaces throughout the city had to go somewhere, and one dumping ground was in Corona, Queens, or as Fitzgerald refers, the valley of ashes:

“This is the valley of ashes, a fantastic farm where ashes grow like wheat into ridges and hills and grotesque gardens; where ashes take the form of houses and chimneys and rising smoke and, finally, with a transcendent effort, of men who move dimly and already crumbling through the powdery air. Occasionally a line of gray cars crawls . . . immediately the ash-gray men swarm up with leaden spades . . . which screens their obscure operations from your sight” (23).

The valley of ashes is everything the Eggs appear not to be—appear being the key word. One critic says that the valley of ashes symbolizes the moral decay which is veiled by the wealthy appearance of the Eggs; beneath this outward appearance (pretention) is the same ugliness that runs through the valley of ashes.

Do you agree or disagree with this based on what we’ve read thus far? Think about the description of both the Eggs and the valley of ashes. Support your response with specific encounters, interactions, and inferences.

Next, think about your own lives and experiences. Do outward appearances always project accurate inner character? Think about social class (including the poorest of characters presented in the valley of ashes). Can one truly be above someone? Or are we all rather grounded to some mutual root? How does this relate to the story and how would this affect the American dream?

Think about this before responding—there is much more going on here than what appears (just like the Eggs!). A thorough response is assured the entire twenty points—so make it thorough!


Ashley Ash
9/29/2012 12:32:05 pm

I would agree with the fact that symbolizes the moral decay, because the people in the valley of ashes are more poor than the people in the west and east egg. They have to work hard to earn their money, whereas the people in the eggs have jobs that cause them to have a larger amount of wealth and privileges. The people of the valley of ashes also represent the moral decay because of the fact that they are supposed to me more ignorant than the other people. The way they talk about them shows that they feel they are more ignorant. When they were talking about myrtle’s husband they said he was too stupid to realize that she was having an affair on him with Tom. They say that he is too stupid to even realize why he comes all the time, and why she always leaves when he does.
In life the outward appearance doesn’t always reflect the true inner character. There are many times when people will see an appearance and the true inner character is different from what they had thought originally. There are many times that I have judged people by how they look and how they actually are is different. The idea of social classes don’t help with the judging of people because of that the fact that when people are in different social classes they think the people are awful and shouldn’t be associated with. No one is truly above anyone because no one is better than anyone. Everyone has flaws and no is better than another. There is a mutual root, and it is that we all have moral and physical flaws. This affects the American dream by the fact that we are always gonna worry about what people think and always try to fix our flaws. Then we mess with people that can fix theirs. We make people sad and unhappy because of what we say, we cause people to get sick and we cause things like eating disorders because of the fact that we have to make fun of people to make ourselves feel better.

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ashley judge
10/1/2012 12:08:38 am

i agree , i think the eggs are just a way to divide the rich from the poor. The west egg is where the rich people live, while the east egg is where the people with old money live. In my opinion no one can truly be above someone.This would affect the american dream by everyone not being equal and having the same rights.

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Marisa Peterson
10/1/2012 12:23:50 am

I disagree that the valley of ashes is a symbol of moral decay because a Tom Buchanan is from East Egg and he's having an affair with another woman. I don't believe that where you live has anything to do with your moral standards. Furthermore, I do not believe that outward appearances are always directly related to inner character. The best dressed, wealthiest man around might have gotten all his fortune by swindling others. Whereas the dirt poor hobo might be at such a low status because he gave all he had to those less fortunate. In addition, I believe one can be above someone but only when they are not seeking that social status.

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Amber Sands
10/4/2012 06:51:26 am

The people that live in the Eggs have more money than the people that live in the Valley of Ashes. Some inherieted it, a few earned it. The people that live in the Valley of Ashes probably didn't get the same opportunites as the people in Eggs. And, just because they have more money, does not mean that they are 'better' or 'above' any other person. Everyone is grounded to some mutual root. Outward appearences do not always project a persons inner character. Most of the time it doesn't. Your physical appearence (how you dress, do your hair, etc.) may reflect a bit on your personality.

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