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Read Chapter two before responding.

The copious amount of ash produced by coal-burning furnaces throughout the city had to go somewhere, and one dumping ground was in Corona, Queens, or as Fitzgerald refers, the valley of ashes:

“This is the valley of ashes, a fantastic farm where ashes grow like wheat into ridges and hills and grotesque gardens; where ashes take the form of houses and chimneys and rising smoke and, finally, with a transcendent effort, of men who move dimly and already crumbling through the powdery air. Occasionally a line of gray cars crawls . . . immediately the ash-gray men swarm up with leaden spades . . . which screens their obscure operations from your sight” (23).

The valley of ashes is everything the Eggs appear not to be—appear being the key word. One critic says that the valley of ashes symbolizes the moral decay which is veiled by the wealthy appearance of the Eggs; beneath this outward appearance (pretention) is the same ugliness that runs through the valley of ashes.

Do you agree or disagree with this based on what we’ve read thus far? Think about the description of both the Eggs and the valley of ashes. Support your response with specific encounters, interactions, and inferences.

Next, think about your own lives and experiences. Do outward appearances always project accurate inner character? Think about social class (including the poorest of characters presented in the valley of ashes). Can one truly be above someone? Or are we all rather grounded to some mutual root? How does this relate to the story and how would this affect the American dream?

Think about this before responding—there is much more going on here than what appears (just like the Eggs!). A thorough response is assured the entire twenty points—so make it thorough!


Mellisa Ridge
9/30/2012 11:59:52 am

I strongly agree, because you need the Vally of ahses. Without it the ashes would be all over both egg's. Outward appearances do always project accurate inner character. No one can be above someone because no ones better than someone else. We all have our flaws. This relates to the american dream because people escape there country to come to america and live there american dream, and dont come to be below someone.

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Sarah Hathaway
10/1/2012 12:09:21 pm

I agree, with the valley of ashes and the wealthy appearance of the egg. But then again the outward appearance is uglier beneath, which is true. For example, people can be nice face to face but people behind your back can be fake and talk about you.

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Sierra Phillips
10/1/2012 12:30:40 pm

Yes I believe that the Eggs appears to be something there not, simply The Valley Of Ashes is known for there poverty and poorness, but also everyone in the Eggs is not rich. Think about the world today people will spend there last dollar to buy the latest car, newer house, best fashion to show off materialistic things but that does not make them rich. That simply makes them someone living paycheck to paycheck to show off. The book tells us that the Egg is a wealthy, unfashionable area, populated by the new rich. It states that its a group who has made there fortunes to recently to establish social connections, and who are prone to garnish displays of wealth.

No outward appearance normally make someone think differently of their inner characteristics. People judge to easily off of appearance and they way a person looks can never fully tell who that person is. That's where many people's judgements in the world today go wrong. Yes I simply believe when it comes to the value of money and putting people in different classes, it's what people typically do today. But I don't believe that it should determine the type of person. Everyone is consider a type of class wether its middle class, high class, low class, someone is placed some where. It relates to the story because people flaunt luxurious things but yet spend all there money just to have something to show off but not enough to pay the things that need to be paid. I believe this would effect the American Dream because not everyone can typical afford there true American Dream life style they wish to live.

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Emily powell
10/1/2012 01:34:45 pm

Yes I believe that the Eggs appear to be something there not. The Valley Of Ashes is known for being poor and in the Eggs people arent rich either.I dont think any outward appearance makes someone think differently of their inner appearance. I always say dont judge a book by its cover. People judge people's appearances before even knowing them and you can't tell who a person is by their looks. You cant just assume that. Today i see that people are rated by money and what "class" their in. That has nothing to do with the persons inner character. If you have money you are high class but could be the meanest rudest person and should not deserve to be high class.Everyone is placed in a class no matter what. It relates to the story because people show off fancy things and spend all there money but not on the right things.Also, no one expected Gaspy to look like he did because they knew he was rich but was expecting more. I believe this would effect the American Dream because people want to live their dream of being rich ad happy but not everyone can fulfill their American dream.

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Sam Conrad
10/1/2012 01:34:55 pm

I agree with part of this, however I feel that there is no veil here, the way the richer people look at the valley of ashes shows how much moral decay there really is and how unbalanced is the share of wealth. If I understand correctly, it seems the people in the valley of ashes have absolutely no chance at achieving the American dream and live very filthy, unhealthy lives. It also looks to me like the poor are working harder than the rich. Now, outward appearances may not always project accurate inward character, however outward appearances do not have to be visual either. The rich, especially in the West Egg, have not matured and gained wisdom as those in the East, so I am talking with a little more weight on that Egg.

In my own life, I have come across the working poor, unemployed, middle class and rich. Sometimes, the poor are the most noble people when the rich are nothing but cocky. I don't think anyone is ever truely above someone until they show that they at least put forth an effort and respect the world around them. I do feel that we are all grounded to a mutual root, however sometimes money and riches can float people up off of that root for as long as they exist within peoples' lives.

How does this relate to the story and the American dream? It can be summed up with a common idiomatic phrase..."Money can not buy happiness."

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Sean Woolridge
10/1/2012 10:04:06 pm

Yes I agree because although the eggs may seem. I e and luxurious the people are just as dirty as the ashes. For example there is two married couples beatin with the others spouse. And as far as my own life yes people are different than how they may appear. For instance you can meet the most beautiful girl in the world, but she. Old be the bitter and mean person in the world. So appearances don't mean everything.

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Jelani Ivery
10/2/2012 02:36:29 am

I do agree. They make the eggs seem like the nicest places on earth and the valley of ashes like the worst possible place. In my life outward appearance makes a difference but it doesn't show how you really are.

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Carl Taylor
10/24/2012 10:33:13 am

I feel that the valley of ashes is a natural place to look down upon in a metaphorical sense, the valley of ashes was a low income place of living even before the 1900’s it was close to the city and as in the book it is described as a filthy awful place to live. These reasons made Valley of Ashes and the local area a target for social status ridicule and hate. You can not judge a book by its covers as you can not with the eggs and the valley. Just because the valley is a low income area does not mean that low income families are the only ones there. As in this time and age there are above average families living in small properties or living conditions because they are comfortable and content with their stay. And the eggs are not all rich people. They could house families who spend all their money for nice things and not have any left over, leaving a hole in their wallets. No one should have the right to look over anyone as stated in the U.S. Declaration of Independence, “All men are created equal” this is not just a line of wisdom on an aged piece of paper but a line that should be lived by. I live by this quote and I never in my mind believe I am over anyone whether it be social status or wealth or belief.

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